CAMSHAFTS TECH TIPS |
Camshafts
Advancing and Retarding the
Camshaft
Begins Intake Event Sooner - Advancing |
Delays Intake Closing Event - Retarding |
Open Intake Valve Sooner |
Keeps Intake Valve Open Later |
Builds More Low-End Torque |
Builds More High-RPM Power |
Decrease Piston-Intake Valve Clearance |
Increase Piston-Intake Valve Clearance |
Increase Piston-Exhaust Valve Clearance |
Decrease Piston-Exhaust Valve Clearance |
Changing the Lobe Center
Begins Intake Event Sooner - Tightening lobe center |
Delays Intake Closing Event - Spreading lobe center |
Open Intake Valve Sooner |
Keeps Intake Valve Open Later |
Builds More Low-End Torque |
Builds More High-RPM Power |
Decrease Piston-Intake Valve Clearance |
Increase Piston-Intake Valve Clearance |
Increase Piston-Exhaust Valve Clearance |
Decrease Piston-Exhaust Valve Clearance |
A Good Start
At max lift, top retainer to valve guide seal should .030 minimum.
At max lift, minimum of .015 between three coils for a total clearance
of .045 of clearance. (Springs)
With both valves open, minimum of .040 clearance is needed.
Piston to cylinder head clearance (with head gasket) should be .030.
(Steel rods)
Piston to intake and exhaust valve clearance should be .050 intake and .080
exhaust. (Checked at various degrees)
Why do cam manufactures say "must be used with 12.1 or more compression
pistons"?
When looking at the power output of a engine, the mass or volume of the
trapped charge is the important thing.
With a static (not running) look, flow dynamics are not present. But once
the engine starts turning or running, everything changes.
At low RPM or cranking speed with a later closing intake valve with
performance camshafts the cylinder fill is reduced.
When the engine starts its combustion cycle, RPM and exhaust pulses are
introduced to the game, things greatly change.
Closing the intake valve later with performance cam shafts at higher RPM
will allow more flow inertia resulting in more cylinder fill.
Because a later closing intake valve with performance camshafts and the
cylinder fill reduced at lower RPM the term corrected compression ratios is
often mentioned.
Hence: The statement use 12 or more compression
pistons are needed.
We have our favorite ways to increase or correct compression ratios on Honda
CB750 engines. A look at the piston section might be advised.
But, in the mean time, Here is a "quick reference" of
some off-the-shelf piston and recommended camshaft choices.
Stock domed and those inexpensive eBay 836cc similar domed
pistons will be limited to our CX-1 or KHD CX-1 camshaft because of the
valve pockets.
10.25 to 1 compression ratio pistons like Wiseco and others
have the compression ratios and valve pockets to use CX-1, CX-2, KHD CX-1 or
CX-3 camshafts.
12.5 to 1 compression ratio pistons like Wiseco and others
have the compression ratios and valve pockets to use CX-3, CX-4 and CX-7
camshafts.
Camshaft Stuff from the 70's Era
Interesting? Maybe!
Note: You will notice some of the manufactures do not state where these
numbers were measured from.
SIG ERSON
Honda CB750 4 Cylinder SOHC/Proferal Billet 1.1 to 1 Ratio
Grind Number |
Cam Part Number |
Timing |
Valve Clearance |
Valve Lift |
Duration |
General Characteristics |
RB282 |
1000 |
I.O. 37 I.C. 65 E.O. 65 E.C. 37 |
.004" .004" |
.375" .375" |
282° 282° |
The ultimate street and touring cam for the 750. Provides increased performance from idle through top R.P.M. Easy starting and smooth idle. Clears stock pistons, no machine work required for installation. |
*SS288 |
1001 |
I.O. 40 I.C. 68 E.O. 68 E.C. 40 |
.004" .004" |
.395" .395" |
288° 288° |
Street, touring, drag strip, cafe racer. Increased performance from 3500 R.P.M. up. Slightly higher idle speed, but smooth. Valve to piston clearance must be checked. |
*SS298 |
1002 |
I.O. 45 I.C. 73 E.O. 73 E.C. 45 |
.004" .004" |
.420" .420" |
298° 298° |
Strong mid range and top end cam for the hot street and strip machine. Big power increase from 5000 R.P.M. up. Must have added valve to piston clearance. |
*SS310 |
1003 |
I.O. 51 I.C. 79 E.O. 79 E.C. 51 |
.004" .004" |
.400" .400" |
310° 310° |
Upper mid range and top end cam. Drag strip, road racing, all out road burner. Needs improved exhaust and proper gearing for best results. Great in bored and stroked engines. Runs hard! |
*DS324 |
1004 |
I.O. 54 I.C. 90 E.O. 90 E.C. 54 |
.004" .004" |
.425" .425" |
324° 324° |
Drag strip, time trails, road racing, etc. Top end power cam, pulls hard from 7500 R.P.M. up. Well suited to large displacement engines. Needs good exhaust system. |
H750 valve spring kit is recommended with all cams for best results.
Titanium retainers are only recommended for all out racing applications where high R.P.M will be maintained.
*These cams must be carefully checked for valve to piston clearance. Most high performance pistons have adequate clearance but must be checked during assembly. Factory pistons may be machined for added clearance. Valve to valve interference should be checked with cams over 310° duration.
None of the listed cams will work in the 1977 750 F2 model Honda as valve to valve interference will occur due to the larger diameter valve fitted. For the 1977 750 F2 engine, only one cam will work. Grind number RB278SPC, Part #1005.
POWROLL
High Performance Billet Cams
These totally new cams, precision-machined from billet steel, eliminate the need for an "exchange" with your present stock cam. High-lift lobes are of the required contour without hardwelding or regrinding. Choose from two different profiles engineered specifically for Honda 750s.
FOR STOCK OR BIG BORE displacements, this grind aids performance throughout the power range. Although compatible with stock springs, we recommend the use of our special valve springs. |
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Note: All timing specs are standardized at .040 in. valve lift and zero clearance.
Powroll Order No. 12661
FOR HIGH-DISPLACEMENT ENGINES only, this cam is inappropriate for the stock 750. Provides maximum engine-breathing capability for displacement over 900cc. Compatible with stock springs, but operated more effectively with Powroll's special valve springs. |
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Powroll Order No. 12662
ANDREWS PRODUCTS
Grind Number |
Timing |
Valve Lift* |
Duration** |
General Characteristics |
A STREET / STRIP |
20/40 40/20 |
.350" .345" |
240° 240° |
Mild street cam for bolting into stock 750 motors. No modifications or head work required. Stock springs OK. More power thru RPM range; slightly higher idle speed; smoothness unaffected. |
D DAYTONA + |
19/45 45/19 |
.365" .365" |
244° 244° |
Daytona; For modified and hotter engines 750/850cc; much more power especially middle and higher RPM ranges. Requires springs, spacing, and head work. Very streetable but slight lope @ idle. |
K SUPER STREET |
35/63 63/35 |
.375" .365" |
278° 278° |
Super Street grind. Best for big inch 750s (over 860 ccs) Strong pull from 5000/9500 RPM. Springs, spacing, and head work required. |
4 DRAGS |
32/68 70/30 |
.400" .400" |
280° 280° |
Hottest Competition Cam made for 750 engines! On a big inch dragster #4 cam yields more HP and lower ETS than anything else available! Springs and head work required for installation. |
*Maximum valve lift @ 0 Lash.
**Durations measured @ .050 valve lift; cam @ 0 Lash.
R.C ENGINEERING PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
RACING CAMS: HONDA, 1969-78 CB750
RC240 Torque Cam - The only R.C. Honda cam that can be bolted into a stock motor without piston valve pocket machining. No head disassembly necessary. For smaller bore, low compression motors. Good for road racing. (Sold as a regrind only - send us your cam)
RC240 Timing:
Total Duration |
Lobe Centers |
Lift |
Lash |
296° |
118° |
.327" in.; .330" ex. |
.004" in.; .004" ex. |
RC295 Racer Cam - Smooth, good idle and torque with lots of the top end. Quiet operation. Exceptional for smaller motor. Ideal for 900cc motors.
RC295 Timing:
Total Duration |
Lobe Centers |
Lift |
Lash |
306° in./296° ex. |
105° |
.390" in.; .360" ex. |
.004" in.; .006" ex. |
RC315 Hot Racer Cam - Strong torque curve from the ground up. Comes on low and never quits. This one makes lots of horsepower. Very good for heavy street and altered race bikes. Our favorite in the Street Class. Has flowed us to many national records. Very tractable. Fair idle - quiet. Ideal for 900cc and larger motors.
RC315 Timing:
Total Duration |
Lobe Centers |
Lift |
Lash |
310° |
104° |
.365" in.; .365" ex. |
.012" in.; .012" ex. |
RC327 Full Competition Cam - Similar to #315, but with more lift and overlap. Designed with more duration for maximum revs and BHP on all big motors. The best choice for use in 1000cc motors.
RC327 Timing:
Total Duration |
Lobe Centers |
Lift |
Lash |
325° |
104° |
.368" in.; .368" ex. |
.012" in.; .012" ex. |
ACTION FOURS
We use new, cast billets exclusively. Regrinds are cheaper, but there is not enough material to obtain an efficient profile and adequate base circle dimensions.
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Stock pistons cannot be used with any cams we sell. You would not get your money's worth. A proper profile that would give safe valve-to-piston clearance would not increase performance significantly. A cam that would give clearance and increased performance could not have a safe profile. Notching stock pistons is not of much value either, since a hot cammed, low compression motor is a very poor performer.
Lift and duration figures are real. The drawing below shows how "extra" lift and duration may be added to no advantage. Buying the "biggest number" without regard to proven results is a fool's game.
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THE "NUMBERS GAME"
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Are the cams above the same? They are by the "numbers"!
Cams A, B, and C above all have the same lift (shown at "L") and duration (shown at "D"). Yet, there are obviously very different. If cam B is correct in design, then cam A would give good "low end" but less H.P and float the valves more easily. Cam C would have plenty of "top end", but would exhibit a narrow power band and open the valves too rapidly for good reliability.
No degreeing-in is required if stock components (tensioner, cam chain, etc.) in good condition are used. All our cams are indexed from the sprocket mounting rather than the drive slot. This insures far greater accuracy for "drop in" installation.
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Most cams are located for grinding from the keyway as shown at "Y". The same arrangement is used on Kawasaki cam but is removed after grinding. All our cams are located from the mounting bolt holes, as shown at "X". Since the bolt holes determine the cam location, "spot on" results. The keyways becomes your "which tooth" indicator only. Of course, this applies to standard components in good condition only. Milling the head or cylinder, or using non-standard or badly worn parts will affect actual timing. |
Is ±11° good enough for you?
Big valves cannot be used in most cases. As overlap increases, valves come closer together. In our experience, an unrestricted profile will do more for performance than oversize valves. More latitude for cam timing variations are possible with stock valve sizes, too.
Carefully designed and tested profiles prevent excess stress and premature float. Extreme, power-robbing valve spring pressure is not required.
To test for adequate valve to piston clearance with any cam, rotate the nearest cylinder slowly to the overlap (exhaust closing, intake opening) position. Rotate the motor slowly, stopping every few degrees, from 35° BTDC to TDC (top dead center). Each time you stop, depress the exhaust valve follower (a padded screwdriver works well) until the valve contacts the piston. The point at which the valve moves the least is your minimum clearance and it may now be measured. In no case should it be less than 1mm (.040"). Reverse the procedure (TDC to 35° ATDC) to check intake valve clearance. Advancing the cam (forward in relation to motor rotation) will increase exhaust and reduce intake clearance. Retarding the cam has the opposite effect. |
CB750 'SS' SERIES CAMSHAFTS
'SS-1' GRIND
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High 11, low 12 second 1/4 mile times (used with 811cc Bore Kits) yet as smooth and tractable as a stock machine! This is definitely the cam for those riders who are worried about their "hot" cams. May be used with stock valve springs for economic applications. Of course, we recommend a complete racing valve spring set for an even wider margin of over-rev protection.
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Note: The SS-1 may be safely used in F2 (large valve head) models, without valve modification.
'SS-2A' GRIND
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For maximum acceleration. Preferred by those who are serious about drag racing, yet need a certain degree of tractability. Best power from 6,500 up. Racing valve spring set is recommended.
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For the best performance and reliability use them cams with Action Fours high compression big bore kits.
CB750 K-H CAMSHAFTS
Kenny Harmon's 35 years of cam design and grinding experience are manifest in these excellent profiles. 750 Honda cams from K-H have become an industry standard for quality and performance. All cams are precisely indexed for "spot-on" timing.
'D' GRIND
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A famous grind. Excellent for riders who desire a major H.P increase, but insist on a wide range of us. Well balanced with reasonable idle and "low end" and a major increase in acceleration. Long exhaust duration allows for sustained high speed cruising without excess combustion chamber temperature.
May be used with stock springs if
desired. For greatest reliability our racing valve spring set is
recommended.
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'F' GRIND
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For the greatest H.P possible, consistent with sustained use. Extra long exhaust duration and substantial intake area provide record setting H.P, as well as efficient temperature control. The best choice for road racing and other "top end" applications. Best power 7-11,000 RPM. May be used on the street or for
drag racing with very low gearing. Should be used only
with racing valve spring set.
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SUPER 'F' GRIND
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The ultimate DRAG RACING ONLY cam. ABSOLUTELY NOT FOR STREET USE. Extreme valve lift is combined with over 300° intake and "short" exhaust timing to get off the line hard and accelerate to high RPM. No compromises in profile design whatever. This cam is not suitable for for any sustained use. Should only be used with complete racing valve spring set.
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For the best performance and reliability use them cams with Action Fours high compression big bore kits.
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